Greek Bouzoukis??

topic posted Mon, November 20, 2006 - 8:03 AM by  Chris
Greetings,
I am in the market for a decent starter Greek Bouzouki. I am having trouble finding anything that fits in my price range that will be of decent quality. Is there anyone out there that sell them other than LARK. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris
posted by:
Chris
Virginia
  • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 8:40 AM
    In my experience, it is almost impossible to get a decent Greek bouzouki for under $1,000, and even those over that amount are often of poor quality (eg. those in the Bay area Lark in the Morning store, which I visited in '03). It is outrageous to me that instruments with these prices usually don't have truss rods, and have necks that need several hundred dollars worth of fretwork to make playable. Greek bouzoukis are largely a racket, unfortunately, unless you're in Greece and have a friend of a friend......

    Something to consider: I've always felt that the "Irish" bouzouki (ie. flat-backed), tuned to GDAD or ADAD, has a more exotic, Mediterranean sound to it than the Greek bouzouki with its tuning (which is essentially the interval of the first four strings of a guitar). Plus, you don't have to contend with the bowl back, which is nice for those of us with a lifelong penchant for beer consumption :-)
    • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

      Mon, November 20, 2006 - 2:19 PM
      Yeah, I totally agree. So many bouzoukis are JUNK, plain n simple. Why they don't have truss rods is a totally mystery to me; my own bouzouki's neck needs a lot of work before it will be playable again.

      I wonder if the bouzoukis that show up on eBay are bad tourist souvenirs bulk-rated from the gift kiosks in Athens straight to Larceny in the Mourning (sorry, I really don't like their prices OR their customer 'service').

      My only problem with trying to substitute an Irish bouzouki or long-scale octave mando for a bouzouki is that the first two (with flat backs, better design, construction, and balanced, higher quality woods) will probably have a richer, warmer, deeper tone than the characteristically cheap, jangly sound of an authentic Greek bouzouki ... and, if THAT'S the sound you want, that's the sound that you want.

      Good luck. How about a road trip? Hit every pawnshop from in Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago and Toledo ... something decent is bound to turn up ...
    • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

      Mon, November 20, 2006 - 8:47 PM
      I currently own a TC Octave Mandolin and can pick out some tunes on it, but as Geoff said I would like to have the Greek Zouk sound. Thanks for all the info though. I have some real good conections in Turkey and can get my hands on some great Baglmas, Oud, and Cumbus from Istanbul. It has just blown my mind that it is so hard to find a Greek Zouk at any price on the net much less I good one. OH well guess I will just keep digging!
      Thanks again,
      Chris
      • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

        Mon, November 27, 2006 - 3:36 PM
        Hey, I don't mean to be nosy, and let me know if I'm crossing the line here, but ... could you connect me to your Turkish conections? I'm going back to Istanbul in July, and I'll probably be in the market for a cumbus and/or an oud ... I had a very hard time last summer finding decent deals on quality instruments ... so much of the junk that I stumbled upon was overpriced, poorly glued together souvenir-quality <bok> (Turkish for <shit>, I think), meant to be hung on a wall instead of actually played ...
    • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

      Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:31 PM
      that's because you are talking about the "fake" bouzouki ;) that with the 4 double strings..

      If you want the real mediterranean sound you might want to go for a 3 (double) string bouzouki with the DAD tuning. Much better for playing rempetika etc although the 4 string bouzouki might be easier to learn for someone with a guitar background
  • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 3:35 PM
    Chris please ask Matsikas, www.matsikas.gr/english/index.htm. They sold nice bouzoukia. I don't own one but they can send you a pricelist if you request it.

    Also check Greek Bouzouki Forum, www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/skeezo, and www.playbouzouki.com. The last forum also deals with Matsikas stuff.

    Be well,

    R.
    • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

      Mon, November 27, 2006 - 5:10 PM
      This might sound painfully silly, but last time I was at "greek fest" that was put on my a local greek orthodox chruch there were more zouks being passed about than bottles of ouzo. Maybe check out if there is an event such as this in your area and chat up some one playing and see if they have a reliable source for playable instruments - or tips on how to easily make a less than playable one less of headache.
      I've also heard from a number of people, that besides the difference in sound, a well set up Greek Bouzouki can be exceptionally fast to play.
    • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

      Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:29 PM
      Yeah, Matsikas makes the best budget buzukia. Let's just say they have the best value for money out there. A bit thin on the sound but very playable with the strings close to the fretboard, easy to tune and they stay in tune too (not sure if the above are true for the really cheap models but the mid-range priced instruments of matsikas are very decent) It is either that or 1500 euro for a great hand made bouzouki by one of the masters.
      • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

        Fri, November 16, 2007 - 6:33 AM
        Yea, I have a friend who is Greek and still has a home in the islands over there. (he is also a mandolin player) and he has even found that finding a good bouzouki under 1,000 over their is impossible. Oh well I guess I will just settle for the irish bouzouki tuned all weird....
        • Re: Greek Bouzoukis??

          Fri, November 16, 2007 - 7:06 AM
          I bought one of these a few years ago:

          www.diodinos.com/silencer.html

          Over-priced, and I needed my local luthier to do a few things to it, but now it's a reliable bouzouki that is all about that jangly sound...it has a humbucker and a piezo, with an odd stereo out jack that splits the signals. No feedback, looks good on stage, is easy to record, and lends itself to heretical use of effects on it :-) And you'll never see a fretboard with more access to more frets.

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